Age old question.

OK here it goes, this should be interesting especially since we have many philosophers in our little group.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

This one is a tricky one but, evolution tends to show that we were born in water, Water was our first craddle, so it was the Egg of all life on earth.

Applying this to the rest of the universe, ill then said the egg was first.

But who created the first molecule of life???

I object to this question on theological grounds. The use of the word who implies some type of divine intervention as if it is the FIRST molecule of life then the who in question is by definition non-living. Now I personally worship the Flying Spagetti Monster and strictly (well kind of) follow his/her/its/whatever's ten holy I rather you didn'ts and do finish all prayers with a Ra-Men but don't wish to get into a debate about how he/she/it/whatthefuck created life as it may offend some. I suggest you do the same Mr. Gil..... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!!!!!!

That's not what i meant: i mean that life come origanally from none life, so what was the sparks the made it all possible
Got a gr8t theory on this...

Well don't be shy, come on share the theory.


Oh and I'm sure you know the answer but what is the answer to the question of life the universe and everything?

OK this is another one where we can go for eons on where the first celled organism came from, and just evolved, because of photosynthesis or whatever does that kind of shit, in nature. Its all just basic survival mechanism in each and every cell on the planet. Evolve or die.

Sorry yesterday i didnt have time to post it.

At general demand(mostly Itcj)i'll give it to you:


First threr is only energy, the one taht made the universe at the start is still the same today, it's differently composed.

This energy have no conscience like we have, but still know it exist.
To understand is own self she start to change.

Born of the first elemnets. Those element are closer to the self of the universe then the energy itself because it's a specialised energy now(Gravitational orbital). Each evolution of the energy as only one reason: Knowledge.
To understand even more she need to sense, touch, feel...
Birth of the first life form(more specialised in is own comprhension)
Then intelligence is born, giving the capability to return to the energy form...
Why???
Now with is own understanding the universe tends to became one again

Each time the specialisation of the energy took place, yes the result was more specialised but it loose the capibilty to acces the all of the universe (it being as one)

So now i think that our evolution is at the point were, as much energy became one to the universe as the same amount return in a form or an other the gather some knowledge.

Don't said it to complicated, it isnt, it only happen because it have to.
it's mechanics again, the reasons of life is then simple, it's happening because of necessity.


The same happens in our body, when we are created from the sperm and the egg, the first cells aren't specialised they can become anything in our body, but from days to days they became more specialised and cannot change back to what they were.(The research on unborn baby cells is about that. i Don't know the name in english in french it's called "Cellules souches")

holy moly !!!!!!!! Wow, the discovery channel aint shit compared to the blood warriors website.

I just have fun conceiving thos theory, in fact i love to observe and understand,

Sorry for you , you have to read it!!!

The first living organism came from the primordeal soup. It was basically a bunch of chemicals all mixed up together. These chemicals formed molecules some of which were able to replicate. Through continuous replication and errors in the replication process more and more complex replicators were formed. This process continued for millions of years and these molecules eventually formed the first living organisms.
If you are interested in the origins of life and evolution suggest you read some of Dawkin's books. I found The Selfish Gene to be a good starting point it is very well written and a lot of fun to read however it is only one of many that he has written and they are all worth taking the time to read.

I am unfortuanetly one of those fat lazy bastar..s that hasn't read a book in years, unless it is soft cover and has pretty pictures of scantily clad women in it. If it aint on discovery or nature channel I wont know about it. Although I do watch all the stuff on their becuase I am very fasinated by all this, but my problem is if you put me down with a book and give me quiet, I guarantee within 3 minutes I will be snoring. Very bad of me, but I can hardly get through the guides in the games we purchase.

That is no excuse for not reading. If you just watch tv then you are allowing the mass media corporate dogs to control you mind and direct your every thought.

Dude, I NEVER watch the news, other than the occassional BBC. I never watch reality TV. Like I said other than movies, I watch discovery, animal planet, and history channel. Thats about it.

I knnow all that Itch, but we found life in places we tough they weren't any : Example Abyss, or the Naica caverns...So life under some other form might exist trhough all the texture of universe.

NaIca caverns links: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/04/photogalleries/giant-crystals-cave/

There is no good reasons not to read juice...

I read alot on the internet, but not at home. Those caves are cool as hell. What a treat it must be to go look at it in person.

anyway Juice there an expression who saiz: A picture worth a thousands words.
So if you watch TV you read a lot!!! (30 frames / seconds)

hmm i would say the chicken came first. Well there's a 50/50 chance so place your bets.

Read all the post before saying this...

Dont do it Jrod, save yourself and dont read all the posts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL !!!!!!!!

read all the post and they got way to deep into some cosmologically am i the universe or is the universe me kind of stuff so i just put down chicken to get us back on point.

good job jrod. Dont let your mind get cluttered with all the what if and creation stuff. Just stick to the basics, killing is my business and business is good.

How can you conceived living in something you don't understand, worst you don't feel, don't forget you are part of a whole, the universe is in you in all time as youre in her in all time, you even communicate with it...

Gil its basically the buterfly effect question, certain things are set into motion because of my actions nd the actions of others. If you dont think about it its still gonna happen. Since I am in the car business, and have been doing this for almost a decade and a half, I have become a bit desensetized towards humanity. I care about the now, and the future will happen anyway. If its a good way to be I dont think so, but it is what it is.

If someone should be desabused about humanity i should and i'm not...

I had a very, very rough life, never knew happiness until i got 24 years old

So i tell you this: Never give up, you don't have the right to, to many people have sacrifice thier live in the name of what they tough was just for us to let go....

The day that man of good will fail is when bad prevails: We are the last good man of Earth, if we do nothing, then Evil will prevail...

Deep !